“It is crucial to dismantle bureaucratic obstacles, particularly given that there is a war in Europe. You cannot approach the defense industry in the same manner as you would, for instance, milk production,” remarked Italian Defense Minister Guido Crosetto.
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Kosiniak-Kamysz noted that the next meeting in Paris will delve deeper into financing Europe's arms industry to serve as a 'flywheel' for the continent's economy. | Sergei Gapon/Getty Images
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German Defense Minister Boris Pistorius dismissed former U.S. President Donald Trump’s proposal for NATO members to allocate 5 percent of GDP to defense spending. He argued that such a significant increase would consume approximately 40 percent of Germany’s national budget. However, Pistorius expressed support for NATO’s decision to expedite the announcement of its new capability targets from October to June.
During the defense talks, the ministers—joined via video link by Ukraine’s Defense Minister Rustem Umerov—explored the possibility of joint ventures with Ukrainian defense firms to boost arms production. Umerov was concurrently in London with U.K. Defence Secretary John Healey, while Luke Pollard, the U.K.’s parliamentary undersecretary of state for the armed forces, represented Britain at the meeting in Poland.
The overarching objective is to fortify Ukraine’s military capabilities in preparation for a potential shift in U.S. foreign policy, as Trump has previously called for an expedited resolution to the conflict.
The meeting marked the second gathering of Europe’s five leading defense powers since the group was established last year. Its mission is to enhance cooperation on defense amidst escalating global security concerns.
Kosiniak-Kamysz revealed that the group’s next session, set to take place in Paris, will focus extensively on how to finance Europe’s arms industry. The vision is to transform the defense sector into a “flywheel” driving economic growth across the continent.
He also noted that key figures such as NATO Secretary-General Mark Rutte, EU foreign affairs chief Kaja Kallas, and newly appointed Defense Commissioner Andrius Kubilius would participate in the Paris discussions.
“Europe has the potential—and the responsibility—to lead in matters of security and defense,” said Kosiniak-Kamysz. “But achieving this will require serious investment.”













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